Sadaat Hossain, owner of the Raven Cafe in Port Huron shares the cafe’s evolution under two different visions: one focused on creating a unique establishment and the other on operational excellence. Saadat shares his journey from a sound engineer to a restaurateur, culminating in his acquisition and management of the Raven Cafe, known for its espresso and spirit bar, eclectic live music, and Edgar Allan Poe-inspired ambiance.
The episode explores the cafe’s impact on the local music and arts scene, its inclusive community role, and Saadat’s deep connection to Port Huron. It highlights the challenges and surprises of running such a distinctive local business, underlining the importance of community and personal passion in entrepreneurial success.
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Show Notes:
00:00 Introduction to the Love-Hate Relationship with the Industry
00:15 Welcome to Total Michigan: Exploring the Raven Cafe
00:47 The Tale of Two Owners: Vision and Execution at the Raven Cafe
01:26 Meet Sadaat Hossain: From Sound Engineering to Cafe Ownership
04:09 The Transformation of the Raven Cafe: A Renovation Story
14:34 The Raven Cafe’s Unique Offerings and Community Impact
15:35 Sadaat’s Journey: From Music to Managing the Raven Cafe
23:26 The Raven Cafe’s Signature Events and How to Connect
25:33 Conclusion and How to Find the Raven Cafe
Transcript
It's like this crazy love hate relationship with the industry.
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:It's a family, basically.
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:You form your own family when
you work in the industry.
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:And it's hard to get away from it.
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:You find that
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:Cliff Duvernois: Hello everyone.
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:And welcome back to Total Michigan,
where we interview ordinary Michiganders
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:doing some pretty extraordinary things.
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:I'm your host, Cliff DuVernois.
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:So I posted online that
I was in Port Huron.
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:The overwhelming response from people
was, Hey, are you going to the Raven Cafe?
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:And of course, my answer was yes.
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:Not only because I like unique places.
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:But I just happen to be a fan of
the writing of Edgar Allan Poe
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:ever since I got exposed to it
way back in high school days.
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:But what intrigued me about this
particular story is that it really is a
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:tale of two owners, one who had a singular
vision to bring something truly unique to
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:Port Huron, and another who had a vision
of how to run this beautiful tavern.
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:Because sometimes the same
people who build something aren't
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:exactly the best people to run it.
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:And so by recognizing their
strengths and their weaknesses has
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:allowed both owners to serve their
community at a much higher level.
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:And that's what we're going to be
exploring today with our guest,
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:Sadaat Hossain, the owner of
the Raven Cafe in Port Huron.
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:Saadat, how are you?
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:Sadaat Hossain: I'm happy.
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:How are you?
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:Cliff Duvernois: I'm doing awesome.
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:Thank you for asking.
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:So why don't you tell us
what is the Raven Cafe?
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:Sadaat Hossain: The Raven
Café has a full espresso bar.
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:Um, We have a full Um, spirits
and beer and wine bar as well.
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:Uh, We do sandwiches, entree sized
salads, uh, pizzas, everything, basically.
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:And we're the only place in
town that does both espresso
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:and spirits at the same time.
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:So you get all sorts of like infused
coffee drinks and all that good stuff.
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:Cliff Duvernois: You
also do live music here.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh yeah.
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:Uh, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
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:We have live music.
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:It's generally coffeehouse fare.
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:You know, like, you know,
singer songwriter kind of stuff.
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:Uh, Once in a while
we'll have a full band.
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:Um, But usually it's just solo artists.
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:Um, Sometimes a blues band.
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:Sometimes we'll have electronic artists.
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:But
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:Cliff Duvernois: Like a real
eclectic mix of artists.
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:There isn't one genre you stick to.
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:It's just are you good and Come in play.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Yeah, absolutely.
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:Um, the Kat that does her booking knows
a lot of folks from this, from Detroit.
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:And gets them up here and
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:Cliff Duvernois: Oh cool.
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:why don't you tell us a little
bit about where are you from?
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:Where did you grow up?
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:Sadaat Hossain: I grew up in Port Huron.
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:Yeah, I did my uh, undergrad in Detroit.
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:Uh, as a sound engineer.
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:But I've been working in kitchens
and restaurants since I was 13.
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:And so, I know the industry.
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:And I got my degree in sound engineering.
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:But I wanted to go with
what I liked to do.
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:Like, um, working in
restaurants, basically.
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:You know, I realized I was
making more money doing that.
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:And that was my passion.
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:You know, bartending, and
cooking, and things like that.
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:So, I stuck with that.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Why did you decide to
get your degree in sound engineering?
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:Sadaat Hossain: That's
what I wanted to do.
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:In fact, my dream was to do, do live
sound for concerts, and things like that.
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:But then, you know, everybody
that I worked with told me that
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:I would have to be unionized.
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:I'm like, I don't want to do that.
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:Cliff Duvernois: I just want to work.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Exactly.
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:And I was making more money, frankly,
doing bartending and cooking.
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:So, I started working at The Raven.
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:Um, The owner is a retired attorney.
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:And he had more fun building the
place than he did running it.
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:And he was frankly, not
so good at running it.
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:it.
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:So, I, uh, I became his manager, and I
pulled it out of the red into the black.
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:And then we struck a deal.
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:And I bought it.
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:Cliff Duvernois: So now, so
to go back a little bit here.
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:So the attorney bought this building but
it doesn't look like it, at that time
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:it doesn't look like it looked today.
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:Because this is a massive
renovation he did here.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh no, he did great.
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:He did absolutely great building it.
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:Like, this was a ten year renovation.
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:He did an amazing job on it.
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:Um, This is all built with
wood from his own lot.
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:You know, he had a portable sawmill,
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:Cliff Duvernois: portable sawmill?
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:Sadaat Hossain: handsh
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:Cliff Duvernois: Benson.
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:So,
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:Sadaat Hossain: Apparently Gerald Edson.
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:So, all the wood that's in here, and, you
know, it's stained, it's beautiful, and he
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:did a really good job building the place.
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:Cliff Duvernois: One of the things that
struck me when I first came in here was
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:how, in my mind anyways, this has like
a really, like a New England feel to it.
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:This place when you walk in.
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:It's not like, you know, just because
we're in the theme of Edgar Allan Poe,
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:it's not just a bunch of books sitting
on a shelf, but it actually feels like
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:a New England style like bar or pub.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Well Gerald Uh,
let's see, he did his undergrad at
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:U of M, and then he went to Harvard.
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:So he was on the East Coast.
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:And that's when he fell in
love with the whole feel.
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:And, I mean, it checks out when you
look around, because it feels like
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:that kind of New England situation.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Right.
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:Now when how did the Edgar Allen
Poe influence come onto the cafe?
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:Where did that come from?
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:Sadaat Hossain: That was also from Gerald.
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:Gerald, uh, I mean, he kind of
had a penchant for the macabre.
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:Yeah.
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:And he influenced it into here.
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:And if you look at the menu, all of the
sandwiches and salads are named after Poe.
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:Short stories, salad, you
know, that kind of thing.
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:Cliff Duvernois: hmm.
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:Now, for this particular place here, I
know you talked before about how you've
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:been working in restaurants, so it was
like, did your parents own a restaurant?
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:Did you just wander into a restaurant
and say, you know, when you were 12 or
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:13, and say, I need a job, I'm really 16?
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:How did that work?
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh, no, no when I was 13,
I lived down the road from a country club.
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:And I went wash dishes and
prepped at the country club.
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:And You know, I just kind of
fell in love with the industry.
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:I did retail for a little bit but then
when I went to Detroit for University,
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:I paid my rent bartending and cooking.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Right.
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:What do you think it was about working
in restaurants and the service industry
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:that made you fall in love with it?
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:Sadaat Hossain: It's, have
you ever seen the Bear?
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:Have you watched the Bear?
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:Cliff Duvernois: Uh, no, I don't think so.
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:No.
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:Sadaat Hossain: It's amazing.
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:It's, it's like this crazy love
hate relationship with the industry.
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:It's like, it, it, it just.
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:It's a family, basically.
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:You form your own family when
you work in the industry.
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:it's hard to get away from it.
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:You find that personal drama,
interpersonal drama, and you
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:form your own relationships.
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:And it's just, you know,
it's another family.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Sure.
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:Sadaat Hossain: You get
another family out of it.
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:Cliff Duvernois: You said you were
going to university down in Detroit.
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:How did you wind up coming
back here to Port Huron?
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:Sadaat Hossain: My old man got sick.
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:Yeah, he got sick.
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:And then shortly after my mother got
sick with, uh, inoperable cancer.
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:So I'm here taking care of them as well.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Ok.
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:Then how did you wind up coming
to work here at the Raven Cafe?
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh, this is the f
I mean, like, as soon as I moved
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:back, uh, they needed a server.
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:So, um, a friend of mine, a childhood
friend of mine, recommended me because
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:I needed work while I was there.
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:And so I got hired immediately.
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:And then I just worked
my way up the ladder.
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:I started booking music first.
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:Then, uh, started managing, and then
when Gerald wanted to sell, I sold.
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:Right.
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:Cliff Duvernois: when you go from,
you know, sound engineering, you can
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:control everything on that board,
the sound board, to all of a sudden
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:now you're having to manage people.
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:Sadaat Hossain: is kind
of, I mean, I don't know.
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:I, I've been told that I am,
um I'm a suicidal empath.
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:Cliff Duvernois: I'm learning a lot today.
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:Right.
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:So,
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:Sadaat Hossain: So, I mean, I'm trying to,
you know, like, balance the HR situation
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:with all of these other cats that are
working here that, you know, you know, I
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:can smooth, smooth the, uh, hard edges.
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:edges
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:Cliff Duvernois: right.
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:And so you worked here.
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:You said you worked
your way up the ladder.
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:At what point did you and the former
owner this attorney like connect?
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:I mean did he did says he was going
to put it on the market and you jumped
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:up and say he I'd like to get it?
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:Sadaat Hossain: He put it on the market.
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:He asked for way too much.
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:There were a couple of cats that,
you know, asked him about it.
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:And It was marked up.
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:But like I say, I was
the manager beforehand.
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:So he realized how much
I did for the business.
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:So he cut me a deal on it.
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:It was about half of the asking price.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Oh well
that's kind of cool.
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:And did it work out to be
one of these things where you
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:know did you have the money?
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:Did he offer to finance part of it?
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:Is he still part owner in this?
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:How did that work?
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:Sadaat Hossain: No, no, no,
it was a turnkey situation.
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:where I found a private
investor and I, you know, just,
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:you know, just picked it up.
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:Correct.
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:Um, liquor license, uh, the
units upstairs, all of that.
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:Cliff Duvernois: And then all
transferred over to you, no problem.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Correct.
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:Uh, actually it's funny because I
drove with my current bookkeeper to
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:Lansing to get the liquor license
and the fax didn't go through.
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:So exactly so I got a banh mi Next
door to the office and grumbled
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:And then I drove back myself.
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:And got it the next day and on
my way back, I got a burger.
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:And I was happy.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Yeah.
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:Oh awesome.
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:Cool!
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:I guess then my next question would be
when you take over complete ownership
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:of the place what was maybe some of the
things that surprised you, challenges
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:that popped that maybe you just
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:Sadaat Hossain: me.
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:that maybe you just Since I'd
been managing so long, it kind
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:of was no, no secret to me.
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:So, going on.
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:I knew what I was getting myself into, uh,
aside from being here seven days a week.
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:Cliff Duvernois: The previous
owner was he like an absentee.
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:Oh,
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:Sadaat Hossain: kind
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:of like
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:Cliff Duvernois: Man I
just want you to run it.
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:I'm going to play golf today.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh not no he would
I mean he would still be in here
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:like lourding over everybody.
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:But, um it took a lot of weight
off his shoulders and I could
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:tell that when I was managing it.
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:Yeah so
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:Cliff Duvernois: Well, for our
audience, we're going to take a
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:quick break and thank our sponsors.
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:When we come back, we're going to talk
to about how Sadaat managed to fit the
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:Raven Cafe into the eclectic culture that
is Port Huron, the impact that they're
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:having on the local music scene, and also
what you can expect when you come here.
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:Hello, everyone, and welcome back to
Total Michigan, where we interview
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:ordinary Michiganders doing some
pretty extraordinary things.
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:I'm your host Cliff Duvenois.
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:Today, we're talking with Saadat
Hossein, owner of the Raven
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:Cafe in Port Huron, Michigan.
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:So Saadat, when I was lining up
interviews in Port Huron, and I was
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:talking to Carol from the Foundry,
Andrew from Port Huron Museums, Gary
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:Warwick from Warwick Mask, and I would
tell them, I'm like, Hey, I'm going to
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:be doing an interview at the Raven Cafe.
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:All of them said, was Sadat?
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:Oh, that's cool.
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:So it seems like you've got quite the
reputation of being very active in
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:this community a bit of a rock star
so to speak Which is absolutely great.
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:What I would like to do is if you
would tell us If you would what are
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:your thoughts about how the Raven Cafe
fits into the Port Huron community?
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:And also, would you tell us
some of the things that you
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:are doing in the community?
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:Sadaat Hossain: Well this is a
very unique spot that run and, you
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:know, I'm here seven days a week.
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:So folks see me.
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:They know what I'm doing.
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:They see what I'm doing every day.
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:And to top it off, um, We're kind of a
hub for the arts and music community.
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:And drag.
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:And, you know, we, we were the first
ones to, uh, to host Drag Nights and
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:Pride Nights and things like that.
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:So, you know.
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:we try to be all inclusive here.
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:And that has worked to our advantage.
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:Correct.
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:8 to 80.
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:Maybe older.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Who knows?
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:Uh, and I know that part of your thing,
and we, we talked a little bit about
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:this before in the first segment,
was, uh, you know, you started here.
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:And one of the first things you
were doing was booking bands.
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:How important is that to have
that live music element here?
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:Sadaat Hossain: I grew up flipping
through the phone book with my, you
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:know, garage bands looking for, um, like,
halls for rent and things like that.
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:And I always wished that there was
a venue for local bands to play at.
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:And once I acquired this venue,
it's, you know, it's, it's
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:uh, it's a fairytale story
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:Cliff Duvernois: when,
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:and then now cause usually when
you're thinking about I'd like to
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:book local bands and I wish I had some
place to play, are you a musician?
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:Are you in a band?
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:Sadaat Hossain: am.
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:I am.
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:I do, um, I do a lot of,
uh, musical theater stuff.
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:I have a theater company.
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:Um, pit bands for, uh, musical theater.
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:We also play a lot of gigs.
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:We used to have, we had the
longest running open mic night
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:at a pub that's just on the other
side of the bridge from here.
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:And it was the only, uh,
full band open mic night.
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:And we would just back, you know,
we'd back everybody that came in.
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:And, you know, it's like, okay, you
know, you want to play Fred Bear.
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:We'll do it.
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:begrudgingly
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:Cliff Duvernois: you
said you're everybody.
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:Eclectic, uh, eclectic taste of
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:Sadaat Hossain: Yeah, exactly.
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:So yeah, we just backed that up.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Talk to us about some,
like, some of the, like, some of the
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:bands that you've had come and play
here that really stand out to you.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Oh, goodness.
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:Uh, we have, um, we have a regular
set of cats that come through.
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:I've, um, I've offloaded my duties
of booking, but we still have,
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:um, we have some regular bands.
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:Uh, Still Running is one of them.
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:They do everything from the Decemberists
to the Avett Brothers and, uh,
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:Flaming Lips, things like that.
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:Uh, There's an award winning fingerstyle
player, uh, William Henry Russell.
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:And he just plays classical music,
like, on the guitar, and it's amazing.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Hey,
listeners, Cliff here.
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:I just want to give you a quick sneak
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:time on this radio station.
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:And now, back to the show.
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:next question I got for you is if
somebody is coming here and never
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:been here before what can they expect
when they come through the door?
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:Sadaat Hossain: Usually I see everybody
looking around in bewilderment.
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:Because before there's
just a lot to look at.
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:There's a lot of stuff
to see on the walls.
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:A lot of stuff to take in at first.
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:They don't know what to do because there's
just so much stuff all over the place.
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:It's very eclectic.
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:Cliff Duvernois: place.
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:Right.
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:Sadaat Hossain: And then, you know,
once they, once they take a seat.
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:It's full table service.
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:Um, Menus are at every table.
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:And, it's a seven page food menu.
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:A five page beverage menu.
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:So there's a lot to take in if
you haven't been here before.
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:So.
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:Cliff Duvernois: The one thing that
really surprised me when I came in here
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:was, The the fact that you guys have a
second floor With a lot more seating,
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:which is actually where we are right
now But you guys got a second floor with
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:a lot more seating up here and it just
makes the place feel so much bigger.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Yeah.
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:Absolutely.
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:Gerald did a really good job
renovating this building.
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:Originally, the first floor was,
uh, it housed a radio station.
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:And then the second floor and the
lofts above were, uh, dance studios.
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:Uh, At one point there was, yeah,
one point there was a leather worker
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:that worked upstairs too, as well.
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:So, I mean, it's been, it's been a few
things, but Gerald gutted the whole
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:place, and he did a fine job with it.
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:So.
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:Cliff Duvernois: And another thing
that really struck me is because,
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:you know, and I talked before
about really good use of space.
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:But even like how the tables are
arranged, how the benches are arranged,
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:and how you've even got seats right here
that are facing towards the musician.
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:This really is like, you know, I gotta
give, I gotta give a shout out to
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:the, to the former attorney, Harold?
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:Gerald.
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:That, um, he really, um, just took a
lot of time to really like map this
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:place out and make it really something
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:Sadaat Hossain: Well it
was a 10 year renovation.
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:Um we have a an upright
piano that's on the stage.
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:And the stage is on a loft.
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:Uh, People have to bring
their stuff up a fire ladder
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:Cliff Duvernois: Yes, they do
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:Sadaat Hossain: to get up there.
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:But, to get the piano in, he took
the entire facade off, slid the piano
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:in, and then rebuilt the facade.
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:Cliff Duvernois: That's the
reason why it took 10 years
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:Sadaat Hossain: it
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:And for
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:Cliff Duvernois: And for the people
that are coming here, because you talked
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:about this seven page menu that you
have, and it is packed full of food.
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:What would be some of the, what
would be some of the key dishes
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:that you would recommend people
to try when they come here?
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:Sadaat Hossain: The signature sandwhich
quote unquote is the House of Usher.
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:Like said all of the food
is named after Poe stuff.
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:It's basically like a
Thanksgiving dinner in a sandwich.
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:Um, But, one of the big
sellers is the California Club.
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:Which is, uh, cream cheese, turkey,
and spinach, and veggies, and stuff.
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:That's good.
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:Uh, The salads are huge.
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:My favorite, my personal
favorite is the oval portrait.
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:Uh, But, It's a spinach salad with
a warm bacon and balsamic dressing.
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:Um, Another big seller is the
Pit in the Pendulum Reuben.
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:It's a stacked Reuben.
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:I've also been told that we have not
only the best oatmeal, Uh, it's loaded
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:And also the, uh, the French dip.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Right.
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:Sadaat Hossain: mushrooms and onions.
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:And, I mean, that's another big hit.
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:Cliff Duvernois: And it seems like
it's a real solid mix of what you would
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:Sadaat Hossain: Yeah,
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:Cliff Duvernois: also
lighter fare as well.
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:Sadaat Hossain: yeah, there's,
there's a little of everything.
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:Uh, The only thing we
don't have are fried items.
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:We don't do that.
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:We don't do fries.
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:We don't do wings.
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:We don't do tenders.
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:You know.
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:But for the kids, we got stuff.
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:We've got an extensive breakfast menu.
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:Uh, Build your own breakfast sandwiches.
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:The breakfast belt.
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:It's basically like a
BLT with an egg on it.
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:That's a big one.
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:Uh, Breakfast pizzas.
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:with, um, you know, it's
got a base of Alfredo sauce.
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:And your choice of protein.
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:Cliff Duvernois: And then what
about, like, what are some, like,
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:maybe like signature events that
you have going on through the years?
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:Or just something that you have on the
calendar, like every, you know, July, we
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:Sadaat Hossain: In the community,
uh, in July, there is, um, the
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race from Port Huron to Mackinac.
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:So we usually have something going on
for that, like a special or whatever.
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:Um, Drink specials, and we
also do seasonal cocktails.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Right.
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:Sadaat Hossain: So it's usually
. centered around those things.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Right.
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:Yeah, cause that's coming
up here pretty quick.
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:Sadaat Hossain: quick.
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:Mm hmm.
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:Yes.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Yes.
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:Awesome.
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:Uh, so Sadaat, if somebody is listening
to this and they want to connect with
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:you, you know, find you online, maybe even
come and visit the Raven Cafe, please do.
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:Where can they go?
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:Sadaat Hossain: Uh, We
have all the social medias.
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:Um, The big one is Facebook.
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:If you look up Raven Cafe.
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:There is coincidentally also
a Raven Cafe in Arizona.
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:And, um, oddly enough, I was in
contact with a woman that was trying
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was talking to Arizona.
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:Cliff Duvernois: three weeks.
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:And she's
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:Sadaat Hossain: So it
was a week beforehand.
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:I was in contact with her for three weeks.
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:And she's like, so do
we just go down I 90?
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:I'm like, no!
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:You're talking to the wrong Raven Cafe.
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:Raven Cafe.
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:She's
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:She's like, oh no!
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:Cliff Duvernois: Yeah, with a week to go,
that would be a panic button right there.
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:Sadaat Hossain: it was.
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:Never heard from her again.
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:I apologized up and down.
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:Cliff Duvernois: what's the address here?
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:People want to find you that way.
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:Sadaat Hossain: 932 Military Street.
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:Port Huron,:
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:Cliff Duvernois: And you can't
miss it when you drive by.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Nope.
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:There's a giant wooden facade.
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:A big ol wooden bird out front.
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:Uh, South side of the drawbridge.
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:Cliff Duvernois: Sadaat, thank you so much
for taking time to chat with us today.
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:Really appreciate it.
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:Sadaat Hossain: Thank you Cliff.
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:Cliff Duvernois: And for our audience,
you can always go to TotalMichigan.
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:com, click on Sadaat's interview, and
get the links that he mentioned above.
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:Also, you can connect with us on Facebook,
Instagram, and TikTok at Total Michigan.
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:If you want to see the video
version of this podcast with all
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on YouTube at Total Michigan.
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:We'll see you next week when we talk
to another ordinary Michigander doing
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