From Pottery to Puzzles: The Story of Port Huron’s Foundry

Because the feeling of somebody buying a thing that you

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created from nothing is incredible.

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And then take it a step further, not only

did they buy it, but then they loved it.

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It's the best feeling.

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Cliff Duvernois: Hello everyone and

welcome back to Total Michigan, where

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we interview ordinary Michiganders

doing some pretty extraordinary things.

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I'm your host, Cliff DuVernois.

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I've done a couple of interviews

in the Port Huron area.

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And I was actually very happy

to get this place on my list.

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Because of one thing that came to

mind was like this could almost pass

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as the unofficial center of Port

Huron Because there's just so many

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great things to do here, including

art and getting people to create art.

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And that is just something

that really appeals to me.

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So today we are sitting with the

owner Carol Brooks of Foundry and the

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Hallway Entertainment in Port Huron.

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Carol, how are you?

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Carol Brooks: I am great.

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Thank you for having me.

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Cliff Duvernois: So why don't you

just take a couple minutes and

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just share with us what is Foundry.

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Carol Brooks: Foundry is the home for

art and entertainment here in Port Huron.

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It used to be, it, as in the

building, used to be a non profit

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art gallery, And that, went really

well for a few years, and then

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during COVID, things kind of slid.

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And my original business was the Hallway

Entertainment, which is escape rooms and

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game shows and interactive entertainment.

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And I heard about, the studio

kind of having troubles.

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And I decided I wanted to come on in

and add my own twist and spin on it.

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So instead of keeping it just an art

gallery where people come to shop or

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observe art, I twisted it, as I do, and

made it more of an art and entertainment

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center where people are coming to

do and immerse themselves in art.

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Cliff Duvernois: And that definitely

going to explore that a lot more.

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Before we jump into that, why don't

you share with us where are you from?

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Where did you grow up?

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Carol Brooks: I grew up

right here in Port Huron.

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Cliff Duvernois: now did you

go to, did you go to college?

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Carol Brooks: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

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So, I went to Grand Valley State.

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Okay.

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And, I have a degree in

photography and in history.

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I thought I wanted to be a high

school world history teacher.

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I did that for a couple years, and

decided that wasn't really my cup of tea.

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And my big plan was, you know, in

the summertime to shoot weddings.

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Which I did do for a while.

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And then, too many

bridezillas came my way.

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And I decided that I lost interest.

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So I lost my love for that

passion and, uh, I had to pivot

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and go in a different direction.

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Cliff Duvernois: so a

couple questions here.

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First off why go to Grand Valley?

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Carol Brooks: They have a really, they

have a really good photography program.

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And that's what I wanted to do.

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As a high schooler, I started

babysitting for a woman.

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And she owned a photography studio.

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And so orders were always coming

in while I'm watching her kids.

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So I would start checking in orders.

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And then one day, her second

photographer for a wedding was sick.

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And so she called me.

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And she's like, Any chance you can

just take this camera, I'll set

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it on auto, and you just, you just

need to shoot some, some pictures.

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And we'll, we'll see what we can do.

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And, uh, I said yes.

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And it turns out I had a little bit

of a, a natural eye for composition.

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So I ended up, taking that

on as my job in high school.

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And I fell in love with

photography from there.

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Cliff Duvernois: And what

was it about history?

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Carol Brooks: So my mother is British.

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She moved here from Wales when she was 25.

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And she never went back except

for to visit our family.

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And I was, you know, drug over with her.

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And castles were my

favorite thing to explore.

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They still are.

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And so I think that's where it started.

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Going over there and seeing Stonehenge

and seeing castles and, I mean, the

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ruins and the ones that are turned into

museums, it's just, it really piqued

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my interest in art and in history.

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So if I had to pinpoint where it

came from, I would guess it's that.

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Cliff Duvernois: Now when you

talked before about going out and

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teaching history, was that where

you, did you move back to the Port

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Huron area and start doing it there?

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Did you go to, did you teach someplace

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Carol Brooks: So, um, at the time

when I graduated college, which

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in Michigan was pretty difficult.

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They were really highly sought after.

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Michigan was the highest paid

teachers, at that time, or close to

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some of the highest paid teachers.

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So I ended up in Lakeland,

Florida, where, yep, where the

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Tigers have their spring training.

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And I taught at a high school

down there for a couple years,

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before I really missed Michigan.

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And, um, I had to come back.

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And so, I moved to Royal Oak.

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And I lived there for a couple years.

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And I found a job at a

company called CrowdRise.

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Which was, an online fundraising

platform for charity.

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And I used to tell people, that

we were like GoFundMe, but better.

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Because instead of helping, Joe down

the street a fundraise for bagpipe

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lessons, which was a real thing.

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Um, uh, we were actually

helping non profits.

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lots of really cool, great

causes and I loved that job.

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But the joke ended up being on me.

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Because we became a competitor

of GoFundMe, and seven

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years ago, GoFundMe came in.

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And they bought CrowdRise out.

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And a bunch of us, were laid off.

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And I loved that job.

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And I'd been there from some

of the beginning stages of it.

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And I felt a little salty.

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So I thought to myself,

well, you know what?

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I'm gonna go start my own business.

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Because then I won't fire myself.

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I just looked around Port Huron

and, thought, what do we need?

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What's missing?

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And as a person that grew up here,

I always heard, and I still do to

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this day, which kind of breaks my

heart, but I always heard people say,

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there's nothing to do in this town.

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And I wanted to change that.

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the first thing I started

with were the escape rooms.

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Cliff Duvernois: All right,

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Carol Brooks: So let's go

back I know there's a lot of

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information in that little story.

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Cliff Duvernois: I know.

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I know.

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So now let me ask you this because you're

like, well, you know, I'm just trying to

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entrepreneur and just go out and do this.

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did you have like, is there anything

in your background that pointed

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it just said, you know, one day.

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Carol Brooks: No, I mean the photography.

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So I started working for that photography

company when I was in high school.

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when I went away to college,

I did photography to help

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put myself through college.

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my mom helped too, but that was one

of my contributions to it, right?

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And so I would shoot weddings

and senior portraits and babies.

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And all of that stuff.

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yeah, I, I, I guess I had

that as my first business

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Cliff Duvernois: So now you've come

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Carol Brooks: back to Port Huron, people

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Cliff Duvernois: are telling you there'

nothing to do here like, you know what?

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I'm gonna change that.

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So you got into escape rooms.

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Carol Brooks: Yeah.

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Where did that come from?

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I, um, well, so I had just, at

that time I had just been to an

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escape room in Royal Oak, one of

the first ones that had opened.

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And I loved it.

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And I just thought that was a

cool idea that the Thumb needed.

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A lot of Port Huron people will

drive down to Royal Oak or Detroit

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to go find unique things to do.

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And I've always wondered, well,

what about the people past Port

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Huron in Lexington and Port Sanilac?

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Well, are you going to drive all the

way to Detroit for an evening of fun?

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Probably not that often.

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But you might make it to Port Huron.

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So, I decided to, to give it a try.

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And it worked.

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And, I literally, the first

escape room that I built, I

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set it up in my dining room.

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room that I invited my friends over.

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Different groups of them.

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Different nights.

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And had them test out the puzzles.

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And it turns out I had a bit of a

knack for coming up with these things.

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And then I ran with it.

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So escape rooms have evolved.

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They literally at first were a

room where you were trying to

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escape it by solving puzzles.

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But, that storyline got played out

over the last ten years or so of

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escape rooms being in existence.

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And now they are more Interactive stories.

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So imagine you and your group of friends

are stepping into a room that has a story.

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And you get to play and interact with the

things in that room to complete the story.

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So for example, one of our rooms is, is

an airplane You sit down in these airplane

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seats and you see the screen and a flight

attendant comes on the screen and she

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tells you, Oh no, we've passed through

some sort of time warp And, everybody on

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the plane except for you have disappeared.

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You have, one hour to break into

the cockpit and initiate the

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landing sequence to save the plane.

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Good luck.

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And then the screen goes blank.

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And you and your friends are in this room

that feels like you're in an airplane.

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And you get to pick things up and

touch and, play and interact with

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the things in the room, while

using your brain a little bit.

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kind of complete the story.

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Some people will, complete

the tasks within the hour.

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Some people won't.

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And, um, it's just a good,

fun, wholesome experience.

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Cliff Duvernois: And because of the

fact that you're solving puzzles, so for

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instance, one of the things is that there

could be a lock on a door, so you have

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to put these puzzles together and arrange

and work together as a team to figure out,

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what's the combination to work this lock.

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Carol Brooks: And it's not just

um, puzzles that you think of in

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terms of, like crosswords in Sudoku

or like physical jigsaw puzzles.

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I'll give you an example

from one of my past rooms.

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So it won't give anything away

on one of the current rooms.

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We had a sunken freighter

room a couple years ago.

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I like to have local history based rooms.

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That's how I got my start was

with a Thomas Edison themed room.

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But in the sunken freighter

room we had this, giant growler.

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And it was glued down to a table.

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And in the growler, if you looked

closely, there was a small key

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on a cork, attached to a cork.

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There's nothing that you can stick

into the growler to get that key out.

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You can't lift the table or

lift the growler to shake it

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upside down to get the key out.

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There was a magnet in the room, so some

people would try to take the magnet and

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magnet the key up the growler and out.

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But if they paid enough attention,

they would see that there were jugs

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of water and a funnel in the room.

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Just enough that if they were to pour

all of the water into that growler, the

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key and the cork would float up to the

top and they could just pick it out.

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Cliff Duvernois: That is so cool.

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Carol Brooks: So it’s not just puzzles

in the way that you think of it.

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Yeah, and I try to make it so that

there's something for everybody.

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There's the person that's logical and

they, they think in a linear fashion.

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There's the person that

thinks outside the box.

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And they need the water, puzzle, right?

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So try to have something for

each type of brain in each room.

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Cliff Duvernois: You decided you're

going to go into escape rooms.

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How did you get started?

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Carol Brooks: Oh, wow.

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Well, like, like I said,

the dining room example.

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I set up puzzles in, in my room,

in my dining room and had my

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friends come over and play it and

realized that I could do this.

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and then I went to some

local entrepreneur meetings.

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And I found a property that was available

and I negotiated a step up rent.

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So I started paying a little.

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And then, after I got a little

momentum going, I then paid more.

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And then a little bit longer, And, I paid

more until eventually, um, I, yeah, yeah.

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And, that, That is a good

lesson for people that are

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trying to start a business.

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Don't be afraid to ask.

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I mean, the worst thing

people can say is No.

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And they might say yes.

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That's how it started for me.

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And then, after not even a full year,

in that first location, Um, we outgrew

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that space and I just, yeah, it was nuts.

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And, um, Yeah, so then I bought

a building just around the

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corner from here and expanded.

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And then a few years later bought

this one and expanded again.

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Cliff Duvernois: So what was

your very first escape room?

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Carol Brooks: Very first escape

room was Thomas Edison themed.

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Because Port Huron is the

boyhood home of Thomas Edison.

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And the story goes that he worked

on the Grand Trunk Railroad, which

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ran from Port Huron down to Detroit.

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And he sold newspapers and candy and stuff

like that to the passengers on the train.

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The story also goes that he got

in trouble for having experiments

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in one of the cars on the train.

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And that's where he got thrown off

of the train by his ear and he lost,

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he went deaf in one of his ears.

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So I took all of that real

history and rolled it into

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a fake story of time travel.

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You, for example, time travel back to

this train car and you need to stop

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Thomas Edison's experiment from blowing

up before you get back to the future.

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Cliff Duvernois: What did it feel like

when the first people went into your,

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I mean, they bought your tickets.

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They're like, Hey, we're

looking forward to this.

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We love to do escape rooms.

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they bought it and there they go.

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And you're standing there going, Holy cow.

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Carol Brooks: I can't tell

you how good that feels.

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And that's why I'm still doing this today.

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Because the feeling of somebody

buying a thing that you created

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from nothing is incredible.

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And then take it a step further, not only

did they buy it, but then they loved it.

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It's the best feeling.

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it's really, really the best

feeling that I feel very lucky

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that that's, um, what I get to do.

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Cliff Duvernois: For our audience

we're going to take a quick

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break and thank our sponsors.

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When we come back, we're going to

continue to talk to Carol about

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the Foundry and everything you

can experience when you come here.

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We'll see you after the break.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to

Total Michigan where we interview

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ordinary Michiganders doing some

pretty extraordinary things.

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I'm your host, Cliff Duvernois.

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Today, we're sitting with Carol Brooks

of Foundry located in Port Huron as

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well as the Hallway Entertainment.

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And Carol, before the break, you

were sharing with us a story about

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how you had, you had rented a spot.

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Your escape room was

starting to really take off.

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You were outgrowing the space quickly.

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There was a non profit that had this

building here that we're currently

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in now that you currently own.

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How did you go from that one space

that you had to being in this building?

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Carol Brooks: So, after I outgrew the

rented space, I bought a building,

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that if you could see through this

wall behind me, it's right back there.

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And the Hallway Entertainment, the

escape rooms and game shows ran out of

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that building for three or four years.

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And I heard that this building that

we're in right now was going for sale.

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So I put in an offer to, to buy it,

and I had looked at what had worked

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really well for them, and what had

not they struggled with and formulated

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my business plan around that.

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And what would mesh well with my already

existing business of the escape rooms.

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the interactive entertainment.

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And so the first thing that we

started with was pottery classes.

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Because that's something that

they had done really well.

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And

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Cliff Duvernois: So did your

offer include, leave the

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Carol Brooks: All the kilns were

left behind with the building.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Mm hmm.

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So I just, uh, I reached out and

found some, some pottery instructors.

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And now, we started with, just

like one time classes where

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you'd come in for a couple hours

with your friends and have fun.

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And then, from there people enjoyed it.

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And we extended it to three

week and five week classes.

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So now we have a mixture of, one

time classes, five week classes,

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beginner level, intermediate

level, seasonal things.

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In front of us right here I've got,

uh, ceramic pumpkins where, our

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instructors threw the pumpkins and then

we branched out to have classes where

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people just come in and paint them.

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So we have like the whole spectrum of

pottery classes, painting, throwing,

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hand building, one time, five

week, and it's been a pretty cool.

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uh, journey.

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Cliff Duvernois: The one thing that really

caught my eye especially going over your

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website for this is the cosmic pottery

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Carol Brooks: Okay, so we just launched

that and I'm really excited about it.

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Our first, our first one

hasn't even happened yet.

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It happens on Friday.

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We're sold out.

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Sold out to the point where we added, I

think, two more classes the following day.

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Sold those out.

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And added five more for March 16th.

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So there's still a few spots there.

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But think of cosmic bowling.

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But with pottery.

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So we've got black lights and neon

paint and you're in the dark with

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some fun music and you're having

a full experience that's totally

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different from anything else you're

going to find while making something

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that you'll be able to take home.

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Cliff Duvernois: Now the one

thing I do want to get to is the

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painting aspect because you've got

different painting things going on.

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We're in the splat room

room that you call it

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Carol Brooks: Yep.

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Cliff Duvernois: So where

did this idea come from?

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Carol Brooks: So this one's goes

back to, people always ask me, how

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do the escape rooms and foundry with

the art experiences intermingle?

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And I've always had a hard time

explaining that except for the fact that

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they're both interactive entertainment.

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You know, you're, you're immersed in it.

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But a couple years ago, my cousins

in Scotland, they said, Carol,

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it looks like you're doing so

great with your escape rooms.

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We want to do that.

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Will you help us?

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So I went over to Scotland,

helped my cousins open their

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first escape room over there.

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and so, yeah, so my games that

were designed here that Thomas

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Edison, one I was telling you about.

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They tweaked it.

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And tweaked the characters and whatever,

and made it a Mary Queen of Scots game.

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Because, that's right

about where they live.

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And, anyway, they're doing so great.

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Last year, they opened a splatter studio.

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And I said, okay guys,

you took an idea from me.

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I'm gonna take an idea from you now.

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And so I, started doing the splat

stuff just like they had done.

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And, we started with a space

that could only fit two people

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to see if it would catch on.

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People loved it.

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And so we expanded into this whole room,

and now we can fit 10 people at a time.

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So a birthday party.

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and then, yeah, people come in and they,

they splat paint with a paintbrush.

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We have guns that they kind of

like squirt the, the canvases.

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they can pour paint there's one over

here beside you where they get to like

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squeeze the bottle and, and drip it.

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And it's just, I like to explain

it as a less angry rage room.

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Cliff Duvernois: drip it.

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And it's well so I can just see

that you have people come in here.

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It's like cool I get to throw paint.

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But do you give them any kind of

like instruction or anything else?

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Because you know the thing is if

everybody threw every color of

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paint at a canvas it would be like

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Carol Brooks: Brown Play Doh.

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Yeah, you know the kids that

just mix all the Play Doh

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together and it becomes brown?

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Yeah

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Yeah, so we try to give them a little

bit of explanation at the beginning.

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Maybe only use, three or four

colors at a time so that you

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don't end up with too much.

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Maybe paint your canvas background

So that instead of just having

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colorful paint on a white background.

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You've got something else.

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think about if you want to

add words afterwards, like

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the one behind you says lucky.

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And it's all green and black and gold.

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So to think about some of those things.

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And then, we give you a practice canvas

before you get your big one so you

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can try out the different techniques.

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Cliff Duvernois: So I guess the bigger

question is why is the Immersive

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experience into art so important to you?

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Carol Brooks: Ooh, that's a tough one.

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I, I mentioned earlier that I, I don't

like the fact that everyone always said

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there, there's nothing to do in this town.

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I love Port Huron.

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It's my home.

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I think we're very lucky to live right

here on this beautiful blue water.

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And I want more people to

want to stay here and not

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transplant themselves elsewhere.

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And one thing that I can do

to help that is by providing a

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place for people to have fun.

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And, I'm not a big screen and

technology video game person.

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I don't watch TV.

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I want people to play and interact

with things in the real world.

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And remember what it is to

just have, have fun again like

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you did when you were a kid.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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It just, it's always just

kind of spoken to me.

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Cliff Duvernois: Now we talked

about the paint room, we talked

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about the different techniques here.

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But that's not all.

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That's not!

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It's because when you were taking

me on the tour of this place, I was

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like, man, what doesn't she have here.

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That's why I kind of was like

thinking this is like the

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unofficial center of Port Huron.

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Carol Brooks: Can we get, can

we get that written somewhere?

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Yes, you can.

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Yes, you can.

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Yes, you

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it!

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Ah, okay!

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Cliff Duvernois: So, you

also have the Listening Room

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Carol Brooks: Yes, yep.

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Cliff Duvernois: Talk to us about that.

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Carol Brooks: again, my idea is immersive

entertainment and an art, right?

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And art is not just.

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Art is not just photography,

and painting, and pottery.

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Art is music, and dancing.

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the rooms upstairs, we have musicians come

in for songwriters rounds, where we'll

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have three or four musicians on the stage.

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And they talk about a

song that they've written.

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And then they play it.

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And then the next musician goes.

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And then the next musician goes.

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And then they start back over.

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It's an idea that they have in Nashville.

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And so we're doing that here.

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And then we have ballroom dancing and line

dancing, comedy, and drag queen bingo.

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All of these just different forms of art

in a way that maybe most people don't

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think of as art, if that makes any sense.

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Cliff Duvernois: Right.

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Now, to do all of these things, obviously

you can't do everything yourself.

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So, are there artists in the community

that are helping you out, whether

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that's like musicians that come or

sound engineers, or in this case, like

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we're in the, we're in the splat room.

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Carol Brooks: Yeah, we have

about 10 employees here.

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And so, yeah.

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So we've got one manager for Pottery

and he that's his baby back there.

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He gets to decide how to run that ship.

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We have another, another

manager for Foundry.

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And so she handles, like the splat

and upstairs, the, the dancing

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and, and, Listening Room classes.

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And then, we have another one

for mosaic and stained glass.

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I maybe create and initiate these things.

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But then I hand them to somebody to run

with so that they're getting the love

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and attention that they need because

if it was all in my hands, um, that

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would be too much for one person to do.

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Cliff Duvernois: because

photography is your background

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Carol Brooks: Yes.

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Cliff Duvernois: Do teach any

photography classes classes here?

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Carol Brooks: No, but, and I didn't even

tell you this in the walkthrough because

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I'm not, fully out there doing it yet.

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But, I just went to Italy,

for like a pre honeymoon.

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Right.

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And as I was wandering around, I

saw this gallery where they were

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taking pictures of people's irises.

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And so of course I went in and did it.

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And it was so, cool.

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And now I have this piece of artwork with

my and my new husband's irises together.

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And it's, it's, it's breathtaking.

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It's really cool.

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So I whipped out my camera and I'm going

to start doing that as my own thing here.

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People will be able to book and get

their or their kids or whoever's iris,

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a picture taken and then blown up into

their own unique piece of artwork.

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Cliff Duvernois: Yeah cause when we’re

talking about likee groups coming in

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and everything else so one of the things

that really struck me is the fact that

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you actually serve beverages here.

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Carol Brooks: Yeah, So,

it's like sip and splat.

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Yes, yes.

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Cliff Duvernois: Talk to us about that.

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us about that.

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Carol Brooks: it took 18

months to get a tavern license.

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I could have had two babies in

that amount of time, you know?

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oh, man Goodness gracious.

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That was a long process and

I almost gave up and I don't

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give up on things very often.

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But yeah, I thought it

would be a good compliment.

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I don't want to own a bar or a

restaurant because I don't want the

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focus to be on eating and drinking.

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I want the focus to be on the activities.

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But wouldn't it be great if you could

come in here and throw paint and

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have a White Claw or a Glass of Wine?

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And so now you can.

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And same thing with pottery classes.

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You can gather a group of friends.

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So we have scheduled classes.

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But if you have four or more people,

you can book a private party.

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Cliff Duvernois: Carol if somebody is

listening to this and they do want to you

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know maybe book out a room or check out,

you know, what it is that you're doing.

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Whatever.

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What's the best way for them to do that?

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Carol Brooks: So if you, want to

book one of our existing experiences,

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so something that's on the calendar

already, um, like we host, two

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stained glass classes a month.

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And those are just pre booked out,

you would go to foundryporthuron.

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com and then there's a book

here or a booking site button.

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You click on that and you'll be able to

see everything that's already available.

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Now, if you want to schedule a

private party, and you have four

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more people for any of our events

and things that we do you would email

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us at hello at FoundryPortHuron.

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com.

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And then if you're looking to do an escape

room or the game shows or any of that,

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murder mystery parties, any of that, you

would go to TheHallwayEntertainment.com

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Cliff Duvernois: Carol, it's been

awesome having you on the show today,

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and we're going to have to have you

back again, and congratulations.

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And

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Carol Brooks: you.

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Thank you.

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And we're always changing things, too.

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So, if we do this again in a year, I'm

sure I'll have four more things to talk

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Cliff Duvernois: See?

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There we go.

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That's another reason

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Carol Brooks: live.

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Yeah.

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Uh, For audience, uh, you always

roll on over to TotalMichigan.

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com and click on Carol's interview and get

all the links that she mentioned above.

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We'll see you next time when we talk

to another ordinary Michigander doing

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some pretty extraordinary things.

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We'll see you then.