Freedom Wand: Stay-At-Home Beats the Odds

And I thought, well, Lord, if I can make enough money and do

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enough sales to pay my payment, which

was 600 and some dollars and Earn a

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couple hundred dollars a month that I

can do this, that, that would be great.

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Never in my wildest dreams did I

ever think I would have companies

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ordering a hundred at a time and

then it would go international.

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Cliff DuVernois: Hello, everyone, and

welcome back to Total Michigan, where

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we interview ordinary people doing

some pretty extraordinary things.

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I am your host, Cliff DuVernois.

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They often say that necessity is the

mother of invention, and nothing could

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be truer for today's guest, who found

herself in a very unique situation,

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invented a small gizmo just to help

herself out, and has now turned around

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and literally has impacted thousands

of lives throughout Michigan as well

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as throughout the United States.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please

welcome to the show, Deborah Tacoma.

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Deborah, how are you?

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Deborah Tacomah: I'm fine, Cliff.

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How are you?

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Thank you for having me.

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Cliff DuVernois: I'm doing awesome.

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Thank you for asking.

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so before we jump in to the show

here, what I would like to do is just

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take a moment and talk about This

little gizmo that you created, right?

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The, the freedom wand.

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So talk to

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Deborah Tacomah: us about that.

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I found myself needing help in

the bathroom after I, was in a car

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accident and I broke my back and I

was in the hospital for six days.

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And I left there with a turtle

shell, one of those plastic

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corsets, like, old fashioned corset.

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It was tight, and it had rods, and it

wouldn't allow me to bend or twist.

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I was also over 385 pounds at the

time, and it was a hot summer.

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So you combine...

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A broken back, inability to bend and twist

for four months, and being really warm

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and obese, you have a problem taking care

of your personal hygiene in the bathroom.

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So whether it's reaching areas to shower,

or wiping yourself after toileting, or

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putting ointment on, or shaving your legs,

there was nothing on the market that would

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hold multiple items and help me without

buying like five or six different items.

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And some of those weren't long enough

for an obese patient, but they weren't

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friendly enough to be able to go away.

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So I wanted to be able to have an

independent, active lifestyle, even

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though I couldn't reach to weight myself

by being able to take something with me.

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So I started looking for something and

couldn't find anything that was long

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enough for obese, but short enough to be.

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Portable.

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And so God inspired me to design it

and I drew it out on a napkin pad

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and 15, 16 years later on a napkin,

16 years later, here we are now.

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Cliff DuVernois: Why don't

you tell us where you're from?

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Deborah Tacomah: Where did you grow up?

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I grew up in Holland, Michigan, and

I've never moved more than seven

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miles away from where I grew up.

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So I'm a deep embedded

homebound Holland girl.

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Now, did you

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Cliff DuVernois: go to,

did you go to college?

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Deborah Tacomah: Anything like that?

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No, I went to high school.

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I met my, husband when I was 14 and

a half years old on a mission trip.

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And, we fell in love and I got married

right after high school and had all

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three of my babies by the time I was 26.

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So, let's see, I was 46.

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Cliff DuVernois: during this

time were you a stay at home mom?

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Did you have a job?

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Were you employed anywhere?

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Deborah Tacomah: No, I

was a stay at home mom.

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We did a lot of flipping houses and my...

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husband had decided to start a

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I self taught myself QuickBooks

and took care of his office work.

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Cliff DuVernois: So talk to us

about the incident where you

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wind up breaking your back.

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Deborah Tacomah: Well,

that was a freaky story.

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So it was a Friday morning and

we always had cousin's coffee

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with my aunts and my cousins.

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And this time it was my mom's turn

and she doesn't live far from me, but

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I turned a corner to go to her house.

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And for whatever reason, I have

no idea why I was looking down.

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And I wasn't going very fast, and when I

looked up, I was headed to my neighbor's

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mailbox, my parent's neighbor's mailbox.

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And I overcorrected to miss the mailbox,

but then I, in my little PT Cruiser,

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I shot across the road and ended up on

the, culvert of the ditch and bounced on

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the culvert and ended up in the field.

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And I could feel that my car

broke underneath me, I could hear

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the frame snap, but I also knew

I broke my back, immediately.

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Anyway, as soon as...

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that happened.

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So I told the ambulance

drivers, be very, very careful.

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Cause I know I broke my back.

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Wowzers.

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Cliff DuVernois: So as you're going

through this, talk to us a little

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bit about, like what were some of

the things that you were thinking

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about as you're going through this?

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Like what was some of the things going

through your mind during this time?

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Oh,

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Deborah Tacomah: well, a lot.

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So, you know, you don't know what

the future is going to bring.

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Right.

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It's like, Oh my goodness.

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Especially being an obese patient.

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Because you have a whole lot of,

different attributes to think

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about when you're quite large.

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And I, we had a stressful

life and I turned to food.

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some people turn to alcohol, drugs,

gambling, sex, addictions, mindless food.

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So I have been battling that ever since.

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But when you don't know how you're

going to heal, it's just scary.

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It's just a scary time.

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but it all worked out great

and I didn't heal well.

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So that same year they wanted to

do surgery, but not at my weight.

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So then I had to have

gastric bypass surgery.

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And that's a whole nother monkey.

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And so that was 150 off, but I still

haven't had back surgery because I had

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another doctor say, no, do not do surgery.

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It will not help.

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So I, I live very carefully and

not, I do not let it inhibit, me,

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but you know, raking, shoveling,

certain things you just don't do.

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so I protected myself and kept

myself as healthy as I can.

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Cliff DuVernois: What I would like

to do is I would like to talk about,

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because you mentioned before God

inspired you to create the Freedom Wand.

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How did the idea start to come

about to actually make this?

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Deborah Tacomah: Well,

I had a great friend.

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I still have.

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She's one of my best friends.

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She was a nurse and so she came

home to help me and I'm like, okay,

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Joy, we got to figure this out.

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How am I going to toilet myself?

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How am I going to wipe myself?

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after every bowel movement and of

course you're on pain drugs and

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many different medications and those

don't go well with stomach issues.

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She said, well, let me go to

the store and figure it out.

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So she went to a dollar store and she

found at that time they had these,

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but I don't think they do anymore.

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But it was a toilet bowl cleaner

that had the spongy fingers on it.

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And she bought one of them and

wondered if that would do it.

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Well, it wasn't long enough.

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So then I had in my house

a long metal toilet.

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I still actually have one that I

recreated just because it's part

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of history, but it was a long.

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Tongue that was metal and I duct taped

the two together to get it long enough

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and then I had a little Pail next to my

bathroom with female Cleaning solution in

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it and I would use that to clean myself

And then afterwards, of course, you'd

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have to wash that out And so it was it

worked for at home, but it definitely

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wasn't portable and it definitely was

not sanitary So it was not something

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that you could take along I still had

the struggle of not being able to shave

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my legs, or wash my feet, or my back,

or my bottom in the shower, or put any

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lotion on, or medicated cream, and of

course, when you've got that much drugs

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in your body, you get and loose bowels

create raw bottoms, but I really wanted

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to be able to shave my legs, apply my

medicated cream or lotions, wash myself

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in the shower and go to the bathroom.

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And I wanted it to be long enough

for me as an obese patient, but

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short enough to be portable.

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And I could not find anything.

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so I created, and a friend of

mine at church was an inventor,

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and he had a huge company.

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So I went to him, and I, remember,

I'm just a mom who broke her

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back, is what I used to say.

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I never went to marketing school,

I never went to engineering school,

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I, nothing, you know, I just was.

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I just started having babies right away.

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So I went to him and he

said, this is a great idea.

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Did you do your market research?

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And I literally asked him,

what is market research?

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So he said, Well, I've tried to find

something that will, that is the same.

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And I'm like, Well, that's why I made

it, because I couldn't find anything.

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But then I hired a college

student who actually knows how

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to research to, uh, Really dive

deep and see what they could find.

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And they couldn't find

anything that was the same.

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So he then sent me with my idea to

an injection molding company in town.

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So my products made by S tech in

Holland, Michigan, and, they loved

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it and they loved me and I love them.

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So we still are in a great partnership.

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And then he sent me to

his patent attorney.

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And from there, we just rolled with it.

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But

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Cliff DuVernois: also too, what I

thought was interesting was when you

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started talking about all these other.

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Like attachments that you could

add to it, like you made a comment

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before about not shaving your legs

and applying medication and stuff.

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And I would imagine that all of

these different things that you

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want to do require some kind of

a different head or attachment or

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something to put on there, right?

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Deborah Tacomah: You

would think so, but no.

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I wanted it, I wanted one product

to be multi task, available.

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the other toilet aids that are out

there, you have to tuck the toilet

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into, the toilet paper into something.

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And it doesn't hold

anything but toilet paper.

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But I created mine, so then

it would hold multiple items.

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So that one tool can disassemble and

come with a bag, and you can, Take

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it with you wherever you go to do all

of these items, all of these things.

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So, um, I can demonstrate how

it works and how we made it.

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But, the question that I said to

myself and I had asked my friend,

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Joy, and I said, people live

with this their entire lives.

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There are some people who are not just

three to four months wanting to have their

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independence, but they need to, to live

with this forever for whatever reason.

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Right.

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And what do they do?

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That's inhibiting.

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If you can't even toilet yourself since

you've, what you've learned when you

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were two and three years old, you really

feel like you're at the end of your rope.

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Well, just shoot me, you know.

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I mean, personal hygiene is

interesting because you are way more

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free to shower in front of someone.

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And change clothes in front of someone,

then you're going to be to go to the

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bathroom and have a bowel movement, right?

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Everybody understands and

they accept that part of life.

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But when you, you go to the

bathroom, every bathroom stall,

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at least in the USA, has a door.

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Because you want to be private

when it comes to toileting.

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You don't want to have to

have people wipe your...

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You just don't.

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I wanted that to make sure that I

could offer something and help people

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improve their lives, long term as well

as if they only need it for short term.

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Cliff DuVernois: I guess the first

question is, is, is that what

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made you think that this would

be some kind of a product for you

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to put out onto the marketplace?

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Deborah Tacomah: That is

a really good question.

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Looking back, ignorance is bliss, right?

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Because.

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I just wanted to help somebody and

I, everybody that I ran into so far

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thought it was an ingenious idea.

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But, um, how did I think that I could

build something, grow something, and

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then make it go into the marketplace

when I had no experience or knowledge?

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I'm not really sure.

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That's why it was all God inspired.

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it's His thing.

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in the beginning, I said,

well, this is your thing.

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So, I am an obedient servant.

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I will walk through

whatever door you open.

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be, be gracious.

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So there are some days I've sat here and

said, I have no idea what you're thinking.

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I'm talking to Jesus, right?

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It's like, Oh, what are we doing?

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so yeah, 15, 16 years later, here we are.

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Cliff DuVernois: Why did you, uh,

approach your inventory friend?

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Deborah Tacomah: I didn't

have a clue as to where to go.

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So all I knew is that I had

this idea and I didn't know, I'm

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not in those kind of circles.

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So it's like, well, who might be

able to give me some advice on this?

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And then Ken was, in my church and

I thought, well, he's a great start

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because he's a, he's an inventor.

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He created a huge business.

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So let's see what he thinks

and where he would send me.

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And that really did open up the

door to continue moving forward is.

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His, his advice and, his

recommendations of going forward.

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So I just never came across to

anybody that said, no, don't do this.

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It's a really stupid idea.

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Everybody thought it was a great idea.

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Now, didn't I know it was

going to take so much money?

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Injection molding is not cheap.

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Cliff DuVernois: Definitely.

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And I do want to talk about that,

when we come back from the break.

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Hello everyone and welcome back to

Total Michigan, where we interview

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ordinary Michiganders doing some

pretty extraordinary things.

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I'm your host, Cliff Duvenois.

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Today, we are talking with

Deborah Tacoma, the creator, the

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inventor of the Freedom Wand.

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And Deborah, before the break, uh,

we were just talking about how...

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You don't really have any experience

in business or manufacturing and stuff.

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And so you're just starting to use

the sphere of people around you,

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to start moving this thing forward.

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And you shared that you were

talking with your inventor friend

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who has now introduced you to

somebody who does manufacturing.

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And you mentioned, uh, injection molding.

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Talk to us about going and meet with...

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meeting with them for the first time and

what was their reaction to the product?

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Deborah Tacomah: well, I had

created, a little drawing on a

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napkin and then I moved to paper.

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and, when I explained to them what I

was doing and why, they loved the idea

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of getting involved with something

that was, a product other than

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manufacturing for cars and automobiles,

which is their main gig, right?

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Their main person is for

automobile manufacturing.

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So they loved branching off into something

local and, that would help people.

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So they were all excited about it and

they just really had a lot of wisdom

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behind them as far as what kind of

engineering, what kind of tools, what

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kind of design, what kind of CAD work.

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And then I, I hired a college student

that was going to Kendall, for industrial

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design, who actually worked for my cousin

as a builder at the moment, at the time.

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So he used it as his project and

he designed the first initial

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design as his college project.

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So it was less, It's expensive for me to

get done and he got experience out of it.

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So it was great.

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And then from there, we went

to, the injection molding

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company, the tool designer that.

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Aztec used, which was Mitch from

Dun Rank Machine Out Indoor.

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I absolutely adore Mitch and his family.

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they have just been amazing support and

yeah, of course you couldn't get metal

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tools and your tool work done overseas,

but, that was a little too scary for

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me because I just, I'm not gonna travel

overseas and talk with people in Chinese.

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Right.

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So I'd much rather use our

Michigan, Michigan people.

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So everything about the freedom

wand has been done in Michigan.

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When you went

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Cliff DuVernois: there,

you talked to them.

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And the injection molding, and

you made the comment before

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about how that's not cheap.

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So I, my question to you is,

is that, initially to get the

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money to get this funding off the

ground, how did you find that?

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Deborah Tacomah: Uh, it was bootstrapped.

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There was a small loan from

the bank that was happening.

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And, it was, you dig deep, you dig deep

and you get very creative, but I did

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not use investors for a very long time.

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Love

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Cliff DuVernois: that.

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Well, so they built out the

molds, they got the cast done

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and all this other stuff.

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And.

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The Freedom One starts to essentially

roll off the assembly line.

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So talk to us about what it was like

when you actually saw the product, you

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could actually hold it in your hand and

start to play with it, start to use it.

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Talk to us about what that felt like.

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Deborah Tacomah: Oh, that was, that

was just like kind of an unbelievable,

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Surreal experience, quite frankly.

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And then to watch them, in the

factory itself, roll off and what

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these tools do and how they make it.

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It's like, that's my product.

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You know, it's just kind of,

yeah, it's, it's definitely a

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surreal experience, that's for

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Cliff DuVernois: sure.

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Talk to us about.

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being able to add like extensions

to this or other products to us.

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Talk to us about that.

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Deborah Tacomah: So let me, as I'm

talking to you about that, I'll just,

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I'll describe it and show it to you.

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So because I wanted it multi task

and multi length, I needed to make

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sure that it could come apart and

that we could have extensions.

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So my original Freedom Wand

was built for the obese.

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And it was built longer than

the rest of them on the market.

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So this first one was

called the MasterCAD.

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It was the original actually,

and it came with three pieces.

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The handle attaches to an extension.

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And it has these button releases, and

then the extension attaches to the head.

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you can take the attachments out and make

it shorter, make the Freedom 1 shorter,

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by just putting two pieces together.

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Now, we have that called

as the Compact Kit.

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And then, we had a lot of patients calling

in, and it wasn't quite long enough, at

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the 20 inches, so we made a kit that was

called the Ultimate Kit, which includes...

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So it gets up to 25 inches

and my largest patient that I

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know of was over 700 pounds.

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But then we also included a strap.

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the strap is made out of neoprene

and it can get attached to one head,

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one side, and then it's got three

slices in the other so that you can

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make it small, medium, or large.

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So those that are, with issues and

they can't bend over, because of back

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issues, but if they also don't have

hand strength, so the strap actually

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was created because I went to market

it to a little person convention, and

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little people have short little fingers.

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And they have shorter arms that

they can't reach correctly.

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But your muscle strength, which

I never knew, is in your fingers.

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It's in the length of your fingers.

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So, because their fingers are

smaller, their muscles can be weaker.

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And then they can't wrap

their hand around there.

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So they asked me to develop the strap.

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So that they could have, so that they

could use it and not drop it with their...

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And then, of course, the little

children, in order for them to be

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independent at school, they need to

be able to do their own toileting.

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So our little people of the world, who are

small, want to be mainstreamed in school,

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and they can do that with the freedom on.

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So it's very popular amongst the

little people, organizations.

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And I absolutely adore my little people.

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They're so fun.

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They know how to party.

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Those people, those little

people know how to party.

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They're fun to hang out with.

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But I, uh...

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I wanted it multi task.

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Well, in order to make it multi

task, you invent it so that

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it would hold multiple items.

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for those that can see this, the

grippers of the head pop out, and

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when they come back together, there's

about a quarter inch plus diameter

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in between all those fingers.

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if you put the tip of your pinky

finger in the end and then pull it

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all the way in, that's what the size

needs to be when you hold things.

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So, you need to create a pom

pom with your toilet tissue.

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But this way, it will hold a disposable

shaver, it holds an ointment pad

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to apply medicated cream like,

you know, a little makeup sponge.

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it will hold a loofah

when you tie knots in it.

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So I'm a loofah girl, so when you tie

knots in those loofah ropes, really

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close to the nylon netting, that knot

can go deep into the grippers and pull

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it in, and it holds it nice and tight

so you can wash yourself in the shower.

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Solved shaving, showering,

ointment, and toileting problem.

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So now we've helped people be able

to, feed themselves by holding spoons,

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knives, and forks that are either built

up or cut down, based on their handle.

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We've, I'm helping a little gal right

now who doesn't have any hands or,

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and has short arms to wipe herself,

but she wanted to hold her own brush.

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So we created a brush

by using a belt sander.

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So whatever you can do, your occupational

therapists and physical therapists

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are very creative at figuring it out.

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But anything that's about the diameter

of your pinky is what it will hold.

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So it's an all purpose kind of tool.

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Wonderful.

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How

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Cliff DuVernois: did you go out

and start marketing the product?

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Deborah Tacomah: Well, I knew that

my occupational therapists were

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going to be my best bet because

they are the professional that

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recommends and helps people live.

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And I knew that because

I needed my occupational

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therapist after I broke my back.

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So she came to my home, helped

me figure out how to do things.

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They didn't have a good solution

when I asked in the, in the, the

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hospital, what do I do for toileting?

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And she came back with this

short little tiny hot dog tongue.

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And I knew that wasn't going to work.

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but Matt, your occupational

therapists are your best, my best bet.

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So I went out to the Michigan occupational

therapy conference that year in

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California with my two daughters.

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And we were supposed to have product

by then, but there was a delay.

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So we had to go without the product.

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And so we had a table and we

were demoing and people loved it.

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there was a great big company

called Salmon's Preston.

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I think it was Salmon's Preston back

then, and they were, the founder of

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Salmon's Preston was a Michigan based

guy who was living in Kalamazoo.

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So I got my nerve up and I took my

product over there and I approached Fred.

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Every occupational therapist that's

going to hear this knows who Fred is.

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He is just this wonderful little man.

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I love Fred.

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And so I approached Fred and

told him and he was so excited.

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He was an inventor as well.

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That's how he created and developed Salmon

Preston, which is now Patterson Medical.

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I showed him and he was so excited

and he and his whole entourage came

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walking down the aisle to my booth.

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So that I could show his entire

team about the Freedom One.

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And they were the first people

that started selling the Freedom

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One through their channels.

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And it was just super exciting.

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So I've got

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Cliff DuVernois: some friends of mine

that are going to ask this question.

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Did you patent this

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Deborah Tacomah: whole thing?

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I did.

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I patented it and trademarked it.

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And yep, you don't do a product like

this and spend the kind of money

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it takes to get tools and injection

molding done without patenting it.

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Cliff DuVernois: Why don't you share

with us like maybe a story or two.

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that somebody has, you know, either

emailed you or bumped in you on the

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street, whatever that might be, and

just said, wow, this is incredible.

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Talk to us about a

couple of those stories.

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Deborah Tacomah: Um, well, I mentioned

my little people of the world.

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They definitely love it.

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and then I've had, one of my patients

was over 700 pounds, and I have

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numerous patients that have said,

I finally get to leave my house.

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I didn't go anywhere, but maybe

to church only if my husband came

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along, that if I had to go to the

bathroom, he could have helped me.

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Otherwise, I didn't go anywhere.

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and so now when you can toilet yourself,

you are free to leave your home.

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You're free to live an active,

independent life, and I get a lot of

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people that talk to me about that.

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Cliff DuVernois: You made this

comment before about how you

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started this business 14 years

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Deborah Tacomah: ago?

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I started.

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manufacturing and created

the company the summer of 07.

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And we started shipping

the product May of 08.

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Cliff DuVernois: Did you ever

see yourself being at this spot

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when you first started out?

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Deborah Tacomah: No, no.

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I remember very distinctly

being in my first little office,

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which was in my basement.

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And I thought, well, Lord, if I can

make enough money and do enough sales

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to pay my payment, which was 600

and some dollars and Earn a couple

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hundred dollars a month that I can

do this, that, that would be great.

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Never in my wildest dreams did I

ever think I would have companies

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ordering a hundred at a time and

then it would go international.

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So I have distribution right now

in Australia, Canada, Bolivia.

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the U.

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K.

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right now, we're trying to, we're looking

and discussing something with the U.

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K.

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And of course, it's on Amazon,

and so it ships everywhere.

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Man, this is wonderful.

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Cliff DuVernois: I'm loving

every part of this story.

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Deborah, if somebody's

listening to this...

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And they want to check out the

Freedom Wand, maybe they want to

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get one because Christmas is coming.

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what would be the best

way for them to do that?

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Deborah Tacomah: Yeah, this is a gift

that is the best thing to give because

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you're giving the gift of freedom.

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And that's what, and it's a subject people

don't like to talk about, but every...

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Every child at any age needs to talk

to their parents about their toilet

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being in hygiene because it is very

important that they stay independent.

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But FreedomWand.

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com, I'm right here in Michigan,

so CareLink, uh, carries them.

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I don't know what airway action and

carries them in their storage just

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online, but you can go to Amazon and

get them, of course, but FreedomWand.

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com is my website.

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Cliff DuVernois: Deborah,

thank you so much for taking

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time to chat with us today.

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I really do appreciate it.

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Your story is...

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is awesome.

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I'm absolutely loving it.

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So thank you for taking time today.

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Deborah Tacomah: Well, thank you

so much for having me, Cliff.

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It's been a, it's been a pleasure.

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Cliff DuVernois: And for our audience, you

can always roll on over to TotalMichigan.

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com, click on Deborah's interview and

get the links that she mentioned above.

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We'll see you next week when we

talk to another Michigander doing

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some pretty extraordinary things.

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We'll see you then.